Random Anime Picture #43: Sloths In Anime, Kyoto Animation Style -Air, ep02
The mere fact that I've now found four sloths in anime just blows my mind. I mean, rubber ducks you can understand. Everybody's got a bathtub in their abode, and rubber ducks and bathtubs just naturally go together.
But sloths? I mean, come on, really? Heaven knows I'm not opposed to randomness in my life, considering the rubber aardvark and cuttlefish I have sitting on my computer desk, but a sloth just seems a little too... out there. Even for me.
Moesloth. Who would have thought? Still, there's been twice THREE TIMES as many rubber duckies in KyoAni shows (K-On! here, Kanon '06here, Clannadhere), so I won't complain.
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This guy actually makes cameo appearances in Full Metal Panic! TSR (doing for the main villain what the container of toothpicks did for Shinji in episode 2 of Eva) and Kanon (he's in the stuffed animal shop where Yuuichi and Sayuri buy the huge stuffed aardvark for Mai's birthday). I guess he really gets around.
Posted by: Andrew F. at June 01, 2009 02:19 AM (H+1zJ)
Anytime, Nozomi So earlier today I exchanged e-mails with Bob from the Anime Corner Store. Y'know, that's one of the great things about being a customer of theirs... you can send the owner an e-mail, he'll actually respond, and it won't be a canned reply but an actual letter. Pretty cool, that.
But I digress. I asked him if he'd heard anything about a release date for ARIA the Origination, which I expected around this time if Nozomi stayed with their pattern for the first three boxes of the series. He hadn't heard a peep, but expected it eventually. I just looked at their release schedule, and it's not even listed in the "In The Not Too Distant Future" column.
So consider this a formal plea, Nozomi: please let us know? We're all waiting... and if you can throw in the OVA, "Arietta", too, that'd be great. ARIA in widescreen (not to mention being produced with an actual budget) is worth pretty much anything you want us to pay.
Budget Cap Resolved? (UPDATED)
Reports are beginning to trickle out that there may have been a minor breakthrough in the whole F1 Budget Cap argument. Ferrari and most of the other teams are expected to sign up for 2010, with a 100million Euro cap replacing the 40million proposed by Max Mosley.
I say "most of the other teams," as Williams has already signed up for the season (and gotten suspended from the Formula One Teams Association for doing so). Toyota, however, is expected to announce that they are withdrawing from F1 at the end of this season.
The full participant list for the 2010 season is scheduled to be released June 12th.
More later as details come out.
UPDATE: Unsurprisingly, the media appears to have gotten it wrong. All 10 current F1 teams, including Toyota, have been confirmed as being conditionally registered for next season. The current agreement between FOTA and FIA (called "The Concorde Agreement") expires on June 12th, and it has to be resigned or the teams will withdraw en masse.
The other condition is a bit more encouraging:
"The basis of the 2010 regulations will be the
current 2009 regulations, amended in accordance with proposals that
FOTA has submitted to the FIA. All FOTA teams' entries for the 2010 FIA Formula One world
championship have been submitted today on the understanding that (a)
all FOTA teams will be permitted to compete during the 2010 Formula One
season on an identical regulatory basis and (b) that they may only be
accepted as a whole."
Meaning, of course, the rules won't change very much and there's a level playing field. I sure can live with that, and obviously the teams can, too.
Now for the REALLY interesting stuff. Along with the current 10 teams, there were four new teams applying to be on the grid: the American team USF1, Prodrive (who was approved for the grid a couple of years ago, and may be running under the Aston Martin marque), Campos Racing (a Spanish Formula 3 team), and one of the legendary names from F1's past, Lola.
Now comes the June 12th deadline, when the FIA will announce which teams have been accepted for the grid. Y'see, there's only 26 cars allowed... which means one of the new teams won't make the cut. Unless they allow them all and the two slowest cars in quals aren't permitted to start! Bring back the DNQ!
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Steven, I have to admit that I didn't think of that.
Now that I do, though, I think they'll have problems dealing with more than 10 teams at some tracks (I'm thinking Monaco in particular), but I'm assuming that the FIA must think it won't be a problem.
I know that most of the circuits host more races than just F1, and I'd assume that means they've got more pit stalls than just 10 teams/20 cars, but we've never seen them.
Anybody out there who's seen races at current F1 tracks, other than F1? Can you give us some input?
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 29, 2009 11:20 AM (hlGBx)
F1 has had more than 10 teams in the past. In 1994 they had 14 teams, and in 1992 they had 16 total, and Monaco that year had a full 32 drivers attempt to qualify. So unless the paddock cells have been increased in area within the past 17 years, which is possible, 14 teams shouldn't be too difficult to handle, even at Monaco. I just wonder if they'll keep the race field limited to 24 cars with 14 or more teams.
Posted by: John Smith at May 29, 2009 09:10 PM (WJqL4)
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Hey there, not been by in a while, and your call to action brought me back over
When I went to Spa to watch my friend race, we were in the non-F1 pits. At that time, you had F1 pits alongside the start/finish straight, then another set around the corner for everyone else. I presume those were much smaller pit-boxes, so although they did have loads, there may not have been more than enough for more than 26 cars (although as has been said, there have been years of 32 cars. I think they had pre-qualifying then, so you may have been qualifying to get a pit stall in part).
This was before they changed the pits at Spa and put in that ultra-narrow pit-lane entrance, it's possible they have got rid of those non-F1 pits now.
Posted by: flotsky at June 01, 2009 02:20 AM (Rlr/x)
That's a nice duckie. Have you ever noticed that bath water in anime is often green? I'd be scared to get near a tub filled with green water, let alone put a duckie into it...
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It doesn't pay to mess with giant rubber monsters. Sure, sure, you can take down the first one. And maybe the next one. But by then the union is ticked at you, you've got a new one showing up every couple of weeks, and you know one of these days, it's going to be Gamera...
Posted by: Avatar_exADV at May 29, 2009 12:38 PM (pWQz4)
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I just ran into this: green tap water is due to chloramine.
Katawa Shoujo Act I: The Review Hisao gets a note asking him to be in a field behind the school at 4pm. Upon arriving there, he is joined by the girl of his dreams. As she begins to confess her feelings, his heart begins to beat faster. Finally, the words he's always hoped to hear! Faster still his heart beats, as she prepares to confess her love.
And then he has a heart attack.
Oh. Hm.
When he awakens, he's in the hospital, where he stays for an unstated, but long, period of time. He's diagnosed with arrythmia, a potentially fatal cardiac problem, and a lifetime of medication just to stay alive.
...and just like that, I was hooked. 4 Leaf Studios, the amateur producers of Katawa Shoujo, may as well have been looking into my medical history. Superventricular Tachycardia, the problem I have, is one of many types of cardiac arrythmias. Completely by accident, 4 Leaf made Hisao become real, and he immediately became the perfect "player insert" for me.
Over time, Hisao's friends and schoolmates stop coming to visit. To her credit, his dream girl is the last to stop dropping by (turns out they really didn't have that much to talk about anyway... ces't la vie). Eventually, however, the time comes when he is able to be released from the hospital... but there's a snag. The doctors and his parents agree that he can't go back to his old school, and he is to be transferred to a special school: Yamaku High School for Disabled Children.
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I can't get over the fact that you died. (Points.....laughs hysterically) Of course the fact that the fatal error was interaction with the creepy misogynist with 2-D complex and similar examples of shallowness would seem to speak well of the creators.
I'm really surprised at how well the characters are realized. This really is genuinely impressive, even more so when one is reminded that this is a fan production.
I'm just wondering why the inclusion of adult scenes was so disappointing to you.
If the scenes aren't forced and actually develop the characters further, I see no issue in them.Â
Posted by: Someone dumb at August 12, 2010 06:12 AM (/mi77)
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Which is something we won't find out until the full version comes out
Still, having followed KS for months (I got linked to here through their forums), I have every bit of faith that the end result will be more than fine.
Posted by: Leotrak at August 15, 2010 06:30 AM (4N7p8)
Memorial Day 2009 We are organized, Comrades, as our regulations tell us, for the purpose
among other things, "of preserving and strengthening those kind and
fraternal feelings which have bound together the soldiers sailors and
Marines, who united to suppress the late rebellion." What can aid more
to assure this result than by cherishing tenderly the memory of our
heroic dead? We should guard their graves with sacred vigilance. All
that the consecrated wealth and taste of the nation can add to their
adornment and security, is but a fitting tribute to the memory of her
slain defenders. Let pleasant paths invite the coming and going of
reverent visitors and fond mourners. Let no neglect, no ravages of
time, testify to the present or to the coming generations that we have
forgotten as a people the cost of a free and undivided republic. -fromGeneral Orders No.11, establishing the first Memorial Day, 1868
F1 Update!: Monaco 2009!
A glorious day in Monte Carlo, a sunny sky greeting the F1 Circus as they lined up on the grid. Would Jenson Button continue Brawn's dominance? Would Ferrari mark their territory? Or would Sebastian Vettel return to the top of the podium? THIS is your F1 Update! for the Grand Prix of Monaco!
*RUNAWAY: For all intents and purposes, the race was over when the tire covers came off for the formation lap. Every car in the field opted to begin on the "hard" compound for their first stint... every car except for Button and Barrichello, the Brawn Boys. The softer tires were faster, true, but they were known to go bad after only a few laps, and the speed gained from them wasn't all that much. The "hard" tires were considered the way to go, all in all.
But nobody told the Brawn Boys. Button cleanly stayed in the lead when the lights went out, and Barrichello blew the doors off of Raikkonen's Ferrari to take 2nd into Sainte Devote. Then, poof, the race was over as the two disappeared into the sunset. By the end of the first lap, Button has a one-second lead over his teammate, and a three-second lead over Raikkonen. By the end of the third lap, it was a nine second lead over the Ferrari. The Ferrari thinking had to be let them run, when their tires go off around lap 9 we'll catch 'em.
But they didn't go off until lap 13 or so. When Button's lap times started to climb precipitously around lap 15, he pitted and got on the hards... and only a couple of laps later, the Ferraris came in, out of fuel. Race REALLY over.
*REBIRTH: For all that the Brawns made it look simple, Ferrari got everything right today and found themselves on the podium for the first time all season, and both cars earned points for the first time all season as well. We won't know if they're really back until Turkey in two weeks (Monaco isn't a fair judge of car pace), but they're at least pointed in the right direction.
*REGRET: The BMW and McLaren freefall continued. Kubica DNF'd with brake failure, Kovaleininninninnie crunched the barriers near the Swimming Pool, Hamilton finished 12th, and Nick Heidfeld was probably thrilled to finish 11th. No points, and may St Fangio the Quick have mercy on your soul.
*DRIVER OF THE RACE: Jenson Button. What can be said about his drive? On a track that punishes even the slightest mistake with a ride on the crane, Button was perfect, and was never threatened as a result. Except for the end of the race, when he turned his car off in Parc Ferme instead of the traditional Monaco location of in front of the Royal Box. He then had to jog the entire length of the pit lane to get to his podium. Oops.
Button sets a higher top speed than the BMWs
*TEAM OF THE RACE: Ferrari. Raikkonen in third with the team's first podium of 2009, and Massa in 4th? Considering the way their season has gone, Maranello has to be going nuts.
*MOVE OF THE RACE: On Lap 12, Felipe Massa was sitting in sixth, stuck behind Seb Vettel who was having some handling problems. Coming out of the tunnel, the Ferrari was parked right under the rear wing of the Red Bull, and through the Nouvelle Chicane he stayed there. Into the Swimming Pool complex, Massa ignored conventional wisdom that says that you can't pass into Tabac. He got on the inside of Vettel, crossed his fingers and forced his way in. Truthfully, it was a move that wasn't required; the Red Bull was having a bad day and would crash out a few laps later. Still, it was a very gutsy manuever and a well-earned MotR.
*MOOOOOOOO-OOOVE OF THE RACE: Other than Button's finishing faux-pas, the clear winner of the Mooooooo-ooove has to be Toro Rosso's Sebastian Buemi. On lap 11, he was following closely behind Nelson Piquet Jr. In preparation for a pass, Buemi tucked into the Renault's slipstream heading into Sainte Devote. Then Buemi got distracted by something shiny, perhaps some of the jewelery on display in the grandstands, and neglected to slow for the turn at all. The result was... interesting:
He wound up getting into the rear of Piquet and simply bulldozed him into the runoff area. While Piquet got free in time to avoid the tire barrier, Buemi just kept right on going into the wall, burying himself wheel-deep. Both cars were out of the race... lovely job, Buemi! Well done!
This season has been a nightmare for Hamilton. But even the best driver can't do anything when his car sucks.
I know Barrichello would love to win one, but the one thing he cannot do is make a risky attempt to past Button. If he does that and blows it, running one or both cars into a crash, he'd be an idiot.
It's interesting to compare Barrichello's performance to Button's. They're driving essentially the same hardware, aren't they? Sometimes the team has varied their start configurations (different tires, different fuel loads) but not always, and Button has been leaving Barrichello behind. The difference has to be driver skill. It's obvious that Button is a good driver whose mediocre performance in seasons past has been because he just couldn't get a decent ride.
I hope he enjoys this season, because with all the rule changes for 2010 there' s no guarantee whatever that Brawn won't drop to the back of the pack again. Their engineers aced it this year, though.
In the meantime, Hamilton must be moaning, "Someone wake me from this horrible dream!"
3But even the best driver can't do anything when his car sucks.
Mm. HWMNBN dragged a mediocre car onto the top step of the podium twice last year, a position it had no place being. I think, in the history of F1, it can be shown that the best drivers CAN take a third-rate car and make hash with it.
Jenson Button is a decent driver that runs very well when given a good car... but hand him a bad one, like last year, and he'll emphasise all its faults.
That doesn't make him a bad driver, not in the least. He's just not a truly special one. I think if you put HWMNBN in the Honda last year, he would have been able to score more points than Rubens Barrichello. Same with Lewis Hamilton or (possibly) Seb Vettel.
I think that, with the retirement of Slappy Schumacher, we entered a "golden age" of F1 drivers. Consider: Hamilton, Kimi Raikkonen, and HWMNBN are all Driver's Championship holders, Felipe Massa may as well be after 2008, Robert Kubica and Vettel are stars that probably will win a championship or two each (if Hamilton lets them), Nico Rosberg probably could as well, Adrian Sutil ran neck-and-neck with Hamilton in GP2 (where they had essentially identical cars).
Hamilton, Kubica, Vettel, Rosberg and Sutil all have less than three years of experience in F1. If there's any justice in this world, we'll be seeing them for 10 seasons more, at least, and I wouldn't put any money down on which of them will be considered the best of the bunch at the end of their careers. Throw in names like Bruno Senna and Nico Hulkenberg and current F1 driver Seb Buemi (who isn't yet 21) and you begin to realize the talent we've got right now.
If you put any of them in a similar car up against Button? I think he'd come out second best (Senna and The Hulk excluded; haven't seen enough of them to judge).
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 24, 2009 09:46 PM (hlGBx)
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I'm definitely enjoying watching Button work his way towards a Championship. It's almost like watching karma at work. I'd beg to differ regarding a great driver not being able to do anything with a poorly preforming car... Senna definitely forced a few wins out of cars that weren't the best on that specific day. It's what made him great! I'm lovin' this season, and Monaco is always an event!
Posted by: madmike at May 26, 2009 09:55 AM (F0SXU)
F1 Quals: Monaco 2009!
Bizarro Season continues with two teams setting significant firsts, a fascinating back of the grid, and slow cars suddenly becoming fast. It's Monaco, it's Quals, and here's the provisional lineup:
Defending winner Lewis Hamilton lost it in Mirabeau, smacked the wall and broke his rear suspension in Q1, but look at the other four who didn't make it out of Q1: both BMWs and both Toyotas! In fact, this is the first time ever that neither BMW made it out of Q1. Toyota's performance might be the most surprising thing, though. Or lack of performance... a team that started out so hot, that looked so good in Australia has slowly become backmarkers. It's nuts, but it's also Bizarro Season in F1. For heaven's sake, both Force India drivers made it out of Q1, also for the first time ever.
The rebirth of Ferrari appears to be in full-force. Kimi Raikkonen turned the fast lap of the day in Q2, averaging over 100mph on the slowest circuit on the calendar. That's pretty darn fast around Monaco. That Q3 times only went up about half-a-second suggests that everybody up front ran light on fuel in their bid for the all-important pole.
Which, for the fourth time in six races, is won by BrawnGP's Jenson Button. Right behind him on the grid is the aforementioned Raikkonen, and Button's teammate Rubens Barrichello. Sebastian Vettel's RedBull, after sitting on provisional pole for most of Q3, ended up fourth, followed by Kimi's teammate Felipe Massa.
So supposedly slow cars up the grid, allegedly fast ones down the grid, and the current Monaco master (Hamilton is acclaimed as the best Monaco driver active) sitting low. Should make for a fascinating race on Sunday, and of course F1 Update!'ll be right here.
See ya then.
UPDATE: Fuel weights have been released, and it's not looking good for anybody not driving a Brawn. Button's weighing in at 647.5kg, Barrichello's at 648kg, everybody else in the top eight is at least 4kg lighter. Monaco's a different type of track, but one thing doesn't ever change: having more fuel than anybody and still being the polesitter is a good combination.
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It is Hamilton's car, yes. Just about the only place you'll see photos like that one is at Monaco... it's the only track that really needs to fly dead cars off. Remember these pictures?
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 23, 2009 01:14 PM (hlGBx)
F1 Practice: Monaco 2009!
Let's get this started off with a bang, shall we?
Robert Kubica goes "Kablammo!"
Things just go from "bad" to "goatse.cx" for BMW. Not only have they been miserable all season, but brake problems pretty much kept them out of 1st Practice... and you can see what happened to Koobs at the beginning of his first flying lap in 2nd Practice.
Which is a bleedin' shame, because my prediction of the slow cars having a shot this year seems to be coming true. Lewis Hamilton's McLaren was 3rd fastest in P1 and 2nd in P2. Felipe Massa wasn't far behind in his Ferrari, being 2nd in P1 and 5th in P2.
As usual, you probably shouldn't draw any inferences from practice times, but a lot of drivers were pushing hard today. They need to; there just isn't enough time on track to loaf around in Monaco.
Not that that stops Vijay Mallyia, team owner of Force India. He's throwing a party every night on his yacht... his 300 foot long yacht. Oh, did I mention that there's a $30000 berthing fee for the race? For every boat in the harbor? No matter the size? My god... money may not solve everything, but I'd love to give it the good ol' college try.
One last bit of racing news that didn't surprise me. Instead of the usual "two-spot difference in tire compound", for Monaco they're only having a one-spot difference. Bridgestone has brought the super-soft and soft compounds to the track. This is good... there's no grip to begin with, what with the public roads making up the circuit, and throw in the small rear wing and it's miserable out there. Every car at nearly every turn was fishtailing, and at one point it looked like Nelson Piquet Jr was actually drifting through Mirabeau. While it WOULD have been exciting to see the medium tire compound on the cars, it also would have been an excitement that didn't last long. Perhaps all the way to Massanet, perhaps not, but it would have been exciting.
Yeah, he's fine, and yes, that was pretty much the end of his day. They shouldn't have any problems dropping a new lump into the back... maybe an hour or so of work, two hours tops, once they get the car in the pit lane. Back in the old days (four years ago), it wasn't impossible to see a car blow an engine at the start of practice, and have it back on track before the end of the session.
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 21, 2009 09:16 PM (DcSb+)
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Under a $60 million budget limit, this might have been the end of his season.
There's just no where on that track where anyone can do any passing, is there? The only reasonably straight stretch is the one involving the tunnel, which wrecks the driver's vision so he can't really control closely enough for a safe pass.
For a lot of the track it's just too damned narrow. And none of those curves look like passing curves.
I get the impression the only real way to "pass" someone is by having a faster pitstop, or fewer of them.
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That about covers it, Steven. The front "straight" and Sainte Devote is about the only place you can pass, and that with difficulty. Really really gutsy drivers could also try something through Portier and the tunnel, but as you point out, your vision sort of stinks there.
Unless you're driving a Force India and you dodge around six cars under a yellow flag at Loews Hairpin, of course. Then there's PLENTY of places to pass!
But, yes, the pitstops hold sway on this one. Unless it's wet, like last year.
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 19, 2009 07:31 PM (hlGBx)
By the way, it looks like turns 10 and 11 are synthetic, created just by building a hump of asphalt and painting stripes on it. In that run he cuts a bit off both corners, I think, and that chicane looks like a great place to cheat.
How do they enforce it? Or is it the case that the humps are high enough to represent a serious hazard to the car? because if not you could pass someone there by straightening out the corners. Presumably that would be a foul.
It is. It's not uncommon to see a car blow the chicane, but any advantage earned by doing so MUST be relinquished immediately. That's what happened to Lewis Hamilton at Spa last year, essentially.
Sometimes cars HAVE to straightline the chicane, particularly the one you're asking about, just because the driver completely blows the braking point. It happens to everybody, eventually.
Also, if you hit the curb at speed, you stand a fine chance of breaking something when you land.
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 19, 2009 08:27 PM (DcSb+)
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When they model that 10-11 chicane in games like Gran Turismo, they always make sure to build in a solid wall there rather than allow players to blow over the top. Otherwise it becomes an easy cheat-cut. (I wonder if there's some legal reason they couldn't call the track "Monaco" in the game?)
Going over that curb (intentional or not) has got to do wonders for the aero package on the bottom of the car.
F1 on SPEED: Monaco 2009!
The glamour. The stars. The money. The crown jewel of the F1 season. The Grand Prix of Monte Carlo.
Also the shortest track, the slowest track, the tightest circuit, the one with the most elevation changes and the fewest straightaways. In fact, you're hard-pressed to find anything straight anywhere on the circuit. But, oh, it is glorious if you win!
The track map:
You start in the front "straight", from Anthony Noghes to Sainte Devote, and begin going uphill more or less the entire way to Casino. From there, it's downhill all the way to Portier. Along the way you have to crawl through Loews (turn 6), the tightest turn in F1 (if not the world of auto racing), at 30mph.
After Portier, you hit the highest speeds in the run through the Tunnel (oh, and you're nearly blind in the process) to the Chicane, the whole way along the harbor packed with pleasure boats worth more than some F1 teams. You scream through Tabac (well, inasmuch as any car "screams" on the Monaco circuit), run past the Swimming Pool (aka Piscine), slam on the brakes in time to hit La Rascasse, avoid the parked Ferrari of Michael Schumacher at Noghes, and then you do it all again... 78 times.
Meanwhile, the fans are behind Armco barriers mere inches away from the action while sunbathers lie on the rooftops of the five-star hotels that dot the circuit. If it wasn't for history, there's no way Monaco would be on the calendar. There's no runoff area except for short escape areas near Sainte Devote and turn 13. Everything else? Armco everywhere. A slight mistake means your race is over, your suspension shattered, your front wing skittering down the road without the rest of your car.
Famously described as "trying to bicycle around your bathroom" or "flying a helicopter in your living room," Monaco is one of the three wins in racing's unofficial Triple Crown (Monaco, the Indianapolis 500, and the 24 Hours of LeMans). Now-NASCAR driver Juan Pablo Montoya is the only current driver who has won two of them, and only Graham Hill has succeeded in accomplishing the task.
Last year's race was a wild one that saw Force India's Adrian Sutil with a shot at the podium late, until Kimi Raikkonen ran into him from behind on a wet track, and McLaren's Lewis Hamilton taking the win. This year, who knows? With all the technical changes, cars that are slower on other circuits may very well be favorites here! That's the beauty of Monaco, and the good folks at SPEED will be bringing it all to us (more-or-less) LIVE!
It all kicks off on Thursday, May 21st, from 7am to 840am, with the 2nd Practice session. Again, that's Thursday, not Friday as is usual; yet another of Monaco's quirks. Friday is an off-day, but then everything kicks off again on Saturday, May 23rd with Quals from 7am to 830am, plausibly live. At this track, if you ain't up front at the beginning of the race, it'll take a miracle (or a crash) for you to have a chance, so you'll see drivers pushing harder than normal... and crossing their fingers.
Finally, Sunday, May 24th, from 630am to 9am, brings us live coverage of the Grand Prix of Monaco, with a replay from 430p to 7p. A wonderful start to the racing fan's unofficial holiday (Monaco in the morning, the Indianapolis 500 during the day, then NASCAR's Coca-Cola 600 at night)!
FIA Blinks?After today's failed meeting between the FIA and FOTA, and Ferrari's subsequent threats to lower the legal boom on the Federation, Autoweek.com is reporting that Max Mosley is confirming that the "two-tier" (aka "Salary Cap") system is being abandoned, but only if all the teams agree to the $60 million dollar limit.
Which is better, I suppose, than having the two-tier plan, but not by much. Talks will continue in Monaco on Friday, May 22nd, which is an off-day during the GP of Monaco race weekend.
Ferrari has filed an injunction with a French court to stop any attempt by the FIA to put a cap in place. So, really we're still where we were before the meeting today, which took place without Ferrari President (and FOTA chairman) Luca di Montezemelo. He was forced to withdraw from the meeting due to the passing of his father overnight... and our best wishes go out to the di Montezemelo family.
Where do we go from here? The longer it takes, the more likely armageddon occurs. Let's hope for a resolution next weekend.
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"The original idea was that new teams coming in would probably end up as
mobile chicanes--much too slow--if we didn't give them some assistance."
Er, has he checked the 2009 leaderboard lately? ;p
It's not that he doesn't have a point, though. How many F1 teams operate at an actual profit? Not too many, I'll wager. That's okay when they're associated with car companies who are happy to spend some cash to get some advertising, and some -really- high-end performance trials, hoping that some of the technology will be something that can be adapted to their regular markets. But... that's less okay when sales are down everywhere and the super-high-end performance research looks like a fat target for cuts.
If there are additional teams that are willing to race under the cap (and Pete named three), that changes the situation a little. If F1 can field a full bracket even with teams breaking away, the chances for a breakaway championship go down significantly; this is especially the case if the dividing factor is purely "we want to throw tons of money at our cars" instead of a perceived technological disadvantage. If you're a race team who wants to make the jump to F1-style racing, which league are you going to sign on to? The one run by Ferrari, or the "real" league with a spending cap that your backers can afford?
The real question is, what are the other teams telling F1? You wouldn't expect them to come out and say "hey, if we don't get a cap, we're gone," as that would be a little bit humiliating, and nobody wants to come out and admit financial weakness. On the other hand, would we be seeing a push for instituting a cap if some of the teams hadn't been bucking for it? (Maybe, with these yahoos...)
But if F1 management is caught in a "damned if we do, damned if we don't" situation, it can probably face down Ferrari. Or rather, it probably has to; if Ferrari gets their way, half of F1 drops out because the money dried up, and Force India qualifies because there were only ten cars in Q3... what's left of F1?
Posted by: Avatar at May 16, 2009 02:46 PM (vGfoR)
...would we be seeing a push for instituting a cap if some of the teams hadn't been bucking for it?
Yes. This is all Mosley's idea. The only teams I've heard say anything favorable about the cap aren't actually in F1 at the moment: USF1, Lola, and Super Aguri (!) have been all for it.
F1 is NOT a sport for the poor man. Never has been, and shouldn't be. You want to join a tour with a salary cap, get in IndyCar. GP2 has fixed costs, maybe them?
Look, it's quite simple. I'd really like to own sportscar, but I can't afford a Bugatti Veyron. Should I be able to force Bugatti to lower the price to $30,000 (instead of $1 Million)?
Of course not. If I want a sportscar for $30K, I'm not gonna get a Veyron. If teams want to be in the premiere motorsports series in the world, they should be able to spend as much as they want. If they don't want to spend it, they're in the wrong place.
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 16, 2009 06:22 PM (UdB9M)
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You mean "the only ones talking about it in public", right? Of course the teams that aren't in can talk.
But if your team is worried, and your financial guys are talking to sponsors who want to pull out, or who DON'T want to pull out but are on the bubble themselves, financially speaking, are you going to start complaining in public? Where the rest of your sponsors can hear you and start thinking "maybe we need to do a deal with someone else next year"? Wouldn't it make more sense to put a quiet word in the ear of the guys upstairs?
Don't get me wrong, you've been following F1 a lot more closely than I have, and you might be right; they might be pushing this cap purely because everyone involved is a freakin' idiot. But Pete has a good point too - if it's important enough to them that they're willing to buck Ferrari... to buck Ferrari right out of the league... then there's got to be something driving it, right?
Posted by: Avatar at May 16, 2009 09:43 PM (vGfoR)
I think, Av, that it's very telling that NONE of the teams currently on the grid have said a thing in support of the plan. Even Farce India, who'd probably benefit the most from it, has said nothing. Ditto Williams, who financially is probably the weakest on the grid...
You'd think that if you LIKED the plan, you'd say something, right? Particularly considering the flak it's gotten. I'm actually not opposed to the idea, just don't call the result Formula 1.
The only team I don't expect to ever say anything one way or the other is McLaren. They surely hate the plan, but considering the way they've been treated by the FIA recently, they're surely walking on eggshells.
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 16, 2009 10:55 PM (UdB9M)
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Don't discount the possibility that what's driving this is Mosley's ego. That kind of thing has happened before in professional sports.
I'm sure it is, Steven. He's trying to recover some of the luster lost from the Nazi Hooker Episode... if he succeeds in shoving the cost cap through, he'll be making the rebel teams back down (or back out) and showing who the true power in F1 is.
Too bad the true power SHOULD be with the Teams, not the governing body. Oh, don't get me wrong, there should be rules, and the FIA is perfect for that, but they need to be run by the teams before being made law, and that's NOT what happened here.
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 16, 2009 11:13 PM (UdB9M)
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How the heck can I fail to take ego into account? ;p
I dunno. There are sports that have done very well with salary caps (football, for example), but they're not quite the same as an expense cap; you can't "make" better football players by paying more, you just bid up the ones that are already there. Not really an analogous situation.
And like I said, I specifically expect that the teams that like the plan would shut the heck up about liking it, at least in public. If you're in favor of the cap, and it doesn't go through, what are you saying? That you don't have the financial chops to compete against teams that can throw $100 million/season into their cars? That you don't have confidence that you can run against that kind of competition? Why not just say "we are going to lose FOR SURE" while you're at it? Especially since we're in the middle of this season, and a next-season cap isn't going to help anything for months.
CEOs don't say "our stock price is going to tumble" even if they're pretty sure it is. In the same fashion, I wouldn't expect even Force India to come out and say "we don't have the finances to be competitive on the track," even if we know it's true.
It's probably significant that they're saying that there will be no refueling next season - not only that, but that they said that the reasoning behind the decision was that they wanted to save the money on transporting the fueling rigs. Seriously, if that's true, it's an example of the sport directly removing a decision that's of no small strategic importance purely for financial reasons. That's not something you'd do if everyone's finances were nice and healthy...
Posted by: Avatar at May 17, 2009 05:00 AM (vGfoR)
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Av, Formula 1 has done the "no refueling" thing before, as recently as 2003. Oddly enough, I don't have a problem with that particular rule change, either for economic or safety reasons. There's been a lot more seasons run without refueling than with, historically.
They may be saying that they're cutting refueling out to save the teams money on moving the rigs, but guess what? The FIA, not the teams, pays the transport costs for the fuel rigs, and they've got no money problems at all.
If you're in favor of the cap, and it doesn't go through, what are you
saying? That you don't have the financial chops to compete against
teams that can throw $100 million/season into their cars?
Good thought, but wrong scale, Av. These days, F1 bottomfeeders have a budget of $100 million/season. The big budget teams like Ferrari or McLaren or Toyota, they're in the $400 million/season range.
So yes, you ARE saying that you can't compete with a team that spends HALF A BILLION DOLLARS a season... and nobody would blame a Force India for saying that at all, because they obviously can't. All their improvements over the offseason brought them from four seconds/lap slower than the polesitter to... one-and-a-half seconds/lap slower. It's an improvement, sure, but they're still more than a minute behind by the end of the race.
So, yes, I still would expect a team to come out and say that they're in favor of the cap. If nothing else, it'd level the playing field for all teams.
I'd hate it, but it would do that.
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 17, 2009 06:56 AM (hlGBx)
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McLaren was hit with a $100 million fine last year, and paid it with no visible signs of distress.
Battle Lines Have Been Drawn As we all know, the FIA has decided that there will be a $61 million spending cap for F1 next year. Teams that stay below that cap level will be allowed to do things differently than the teams that go above the limit. Unlimited revs on the engines and a bigger KERS power boost are a nice bonus, but having fully adjustable wings, both front and rear, would be a true boon. Forget about having to worry about a track being "low downforce" or "high downforce"... being able to adjust between high and low (or anywhere in-between) at any time, as often as you like, would be an incredible advantage to a car. So would unlimited offseason testing, another bonus given to the teams under the cap.
Of course, some of the current teams have a problem with this. Renault, not the most devoted F1 team to begin with (even when they were winning championships, they talked about withdrawing from the sport), has said that if the cap is put in place, they'll pull out of the championship. Toyota, perhaps thinking that this is the perfect way out of the money sinkhole they've created in their failed attempt to win just one race, has also said they're out when a cap becomes official. Fraternal twins Red Bull and Toro Rosso, both up-and-comers, have said the same.
However, it's the most popular team in F1 that drew the biggest line in the sand. No less a team than Scuderia Ferrari themselves has gone on record as saying that they're out if the cap is put in place... and with a May 29th deadline just a few weeks away, for now they're sticking by their guns.
Max Mosley, FIA supremo, says that F1 can survive without Ferrari, and he's probably right. As much as I, a professional Ferrari-hater, hate to admit it, F1 wouldn't be the same without the Prancing Horse.
There is an ugly battle coming here... and to be honest, for once I can't tell who will win and who will lose. Rest assured, there will be a loser. Either Ferrari's unbroken string of 60 years in the greatest motorsport series will end, or Max Mosley will be shown to be a conniving, yet sniveling, opportunist whose already weakened Presidency will surely be burned to the ground.
If a cap exists, five big teams will retire to the pits. That shouldn't be allowed to happen. Mosley must back down, or as the good folks at Planet-F1.com put it, "Mosley's legacy to F1 would be... no F1."
I'm betting on the teams. The Formula One Teams Association (FOTA) have a meeting with Mosley scheduled with Mosley this week, and I suspect something will shake loose then. Cross your fingers.
I don't see how Mosley can stand up to the possibility of five teams leaving. He's going to have to give in on this. If it was only one team, even if it was Ferrari, maybe he could get away with it. But not with so many teams in open revolt.
In the end it's all about the fans, and losing five teams risks alienating the fans. You can be sure Mosley remembers what happened to MLB after the 1994 players' strike.
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It's worse than that, really. If five teams go, they've got at least a reasonable chance of -taking the sport with them-. Set up a new F1 authority, do deals with the tracks, and then give the remaining teams a choice - come and play with the big boys, or try bragging about your victory over Force India. If they could swing one or two more teams, the rest would almost have to follow.
Maybe they just tried to set the cap too low? (Or too high? With the technical advantages available to the guys under the cap, there's a HUGE disincentive to outspend that cap unless you're going to outspend it by a hell of a lot.)
Posted by: Avatar_exADV at May 15, 2009 01:09 PM (pWQz4)
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Five teams is an unrecoverable chunk of the field.
And like Avatar said. I know Ferrari doesn't like having to compete with prole outfits like Farce, but the fact that so many other "mid"-tier teams are also bent out of shape means that either that cap is way too low, or their engineers are telling them that those bonus performance options are game-breaking at any price.
Maybe you'll know, but has there ever been an "unlimited" race class with an emphasis on minimizing performance design constraints? Safety constraints would have to stay tight, but imagine what teams and manufacturers could come up with under a wide-open list like:
0) One human driver 1) Fits inside a 20'x7' footprint 2) Stays in contact with the ground during normal operation 3) Must not damage the race surface in the course of normal operation 4) No devices clearly intended to damage other vehicles 5) Anything else goes
I'd love to see just how many cylinders (or engines?) and aerodynamic fiddly-bits vehicles would end up with before an equilibrium was reached.
- Where are all the conspiracy theorists who claimed that FIA was acting in interests of Ferrari? What a laugh.
- Breakaway teams cannot establish new series without FIA's blessing thanks to EU legislation that gives FIA the monopoly to regulate motor sports. Notice that the previous disagreement with a breakaway threat was with rights owners, and back then Mosley said he'd be happy to sanction it. Not so now.
- Remember what Mosley has done to U.S. GP in 2005? He does not care if only 3 teams remain on the grid as long as he keeps the reigns of power.
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at May 15, 2009 06:55 PM (/ppBw)
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Pete, no less a persona than Darth Ecclestone himself has stated that the FIA has in the past given Ferrari preferential treatment, including a higher percentage of funding AND preferential treatment in "the courts." You may not want to believe it yourself, but it's all there, and simple perusal of complaints involving Ferrari show a distinct lean in the favor of the Red Team.
Also, there are plenty of ways that a breakaway series can run without FIA sanction. Perhaps you've heard of the British Touring Car Championship? BTCC? Not a FIA series. Or NASCAR? IndyCar? DTM? Also not FIA-sanctioned.
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 15, 2009 07:31 PM (hlGBx)
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And another thing: Lola, Prodrive, and Lightspeed announced plans of competing under the cap (and that's just serious entrants, not counting USF1 and their ilk). The sport does not need the fickle manufacturers. Which was probably the plan all along.
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at May 16, 2009 12:43 AM (/ppBw)
Ducks In The Post
So Digicolleen of The Duck Show, apart from being a delightful conversationalist, is the organizer of this year's Duckfest, a slightly informal gathering of rubber duckie fans from around the planet. After discovering a few weeks ago that I wouldn't be able to attend (it's in New York), she promised to send me a present from Duckfest 2009.
Today, as I was in the process of being screeched at by a student unhappy with the amount of money I was offering her for her textbook, one of the maildesk employees stopped in and deposited a small box in front of me. Inside said box?
Yes, that's right... the official commemorative duckies from Duckfest 2009 and 2008, and a few others to boot!
She's insane... certifiable... loony... and that's why I love her so. Thanks, Colleen!!!
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Wow! That was fast! I'm going to have to take back all those things I previously said about the USPS
Glad I could make your day duck-tacular! Enjoy! Quack! Whoot!
Posted by: Digicolleen at May 13, 2009 05:43 PM (G2gtL)
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USPS...mail....send....box. OMG !!!! Thank you Wonderduck. You've saved the day again.
Reformatting Chiyo-chan (UPDATED)
I'm afraid this ick that I picked up at animeondvd.com has proven to be too much for me any my battery of antivirus/antimalware/antispyware suites. I'm going to be nuking my hard-drive... it's the only way to be sure.
Hopefully, I'll be back online Wednesday.
UPDATE: Reformat complete, updated to Service Pack 3, new versions of my antivirus and spyware programs, Firefox installed, yadda yadda yadda. Tomorrow comes the fun stuff.
I don't think I lost too much. I never saw any sign of ick in my external drives, or my mp3 files, or my pictures, so I saved them all to DVD before I started in with the sandpaper. The one thing that I can't replace is the master version of "...Angel.", my AMV. Hopefully it's clean.
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Ouch... that's got to suck after you spent so much time troubleshooting it. Kuro here is scheduled for a clean install of the Windows 7 release candidate in the next week or so, but in her case it's an elective operation. Hope Chiyo-chan is back to her normal self before long!
Posted by: Andrew F. at May 12, 2009 06:50 PM (H+1zJ)
F1 Update!: Spain 2009!
A return to the Old World... will it be a return to the old guard in
F1, or will the new breed continue their rise to glory? THIS is your F1 Update! for the 2009 Grand Prix of Spain!
*THEIR MOTHERS WOULD BE SO PROUD: Another race, another dominating win for BrawnGP. Rubens Barrichello led until the first round of pitstops, though not without some yelling and exhorting from the pit wall. Surprisingly enough, both drivers were on three-stop strategies, though Jensen Button was switched to a two-stopper after the first... um... stop. That turned out to be the correct strategy, as Button inherited the lead when Barrichello made his stops, then ran away and hid. Afterwards the first cracks appeared in the happy smiles of the team when Rubens began complaining that he didn't intend to play second fiddle to anybody. Unfortunately that's exactly what his career has been, first to Michael Schumacher, now to Button. We'll see how that plays out down the road, but for now Brawn is just as dominating as ever.
*FACES ONLY A MOTHER COULD LOVE: Another disasterous day for the so-called Big Three. Felipe Massa got into the points for the first time this season, true, but Ferrari quite nearly threw his 6th place away when they screwed up on their fuel calculations and didn't put enough gas in his car to finish the race at normal levels. With six laps to go, Massa was in fourth when the team told him to dial down the fuel mixtures and the revs to conserve fuel. The Red Bull of Sebastian Vettel, with no such restrictions, blew past the limping Ferrari like it was standing still. With four laps to go, Massa was 16 seconds ahead of the Renault of HWMNBN. On the backside of the track on the final lap, HWMNBN zipped past Massa to drop him to sixth. At the finish line, Massa was only 1.5 seconds ahead of 7th and fading fast, and it was all self-inflicted by the team. He eventually ran out of fuel on the cool-down lap. Meanwhile, Massa's teammate, Kimi Raikkonen, had a hydraulics-based throttle problem that stopped the car after 17 laps, but only after the car's KERS unit had failed. Again.
Meanwhile, BMW was 7th and 11th. That may sound pretty pathetic, but it's an improvement over their previous results. McLaren nearly got Lewis Hamilton into the points, but had to settle for 9th place from the reigning world driver's champion. His teammate, Heikki Kovaleinninninnie, had a broken gearbox that forced him to retire to the pits on lap seven. Bizarro Season continues.
*DRIVER OF THE RACE: Jensen Button drove another flawless race to win, which against his teammate he had to do. He could have fought Barrichello at the start but refrained. He could have thrown it away by a slip or a bobble, but there wasn't one to be seen. When he needed to increase the size of his lead, he poured on fast lap on top of fast lap. It was, dare I say it, a Schumacher-esque performance.
*TEAM OF THE RACE: BrawnGP is dominating the series right now, but without becoming the unlikeable-800lb-gorilla team (see Ferrari). While some teams have gambled needlessly in previous races (see Ferrari, rain tires, Kimi Raikkonen), BrawnGP made sure they'd win the race by switching their drivers onto differing fuel strategies early. They ended up 1-2 on the podium, no mistakes by the team anywhere.
*MOVE OF THE RACE: At the beginning of the race, a vicious crash took out both Toro Rossos, the Farce India of Adrian Sutil, and the Toyota of Jarno Trulli. Almost immediately a Safety Car was called out while the track workers cleaned up the immense debris field left on the track afterwards. On lap 7, the SC came in and the race was back on. HWMNBN got a great tow behind the Red Bull of (eventual third-place finisher) Mark Webber down the straightaway, then dove to the inside near the pit out. Webber forced him even farther inside until HWMNBN was actually on the grass, but he still powered past the Red Bull. A very nice pass, but not the reason we're talking here. As the Renault cut in front of Webber to gain the line for the fast approaching Turn 1, Webber swooped behind HWMNBN for an instant, then set up on the inside, just off the Renault's starboard quarter. As HWMNBN braked for the turn, Webber somehow held off the brakes and streaked past, tires screaming in protest as he threw himself through the bend. The Renault tried to do a "reverse under-over" in counter-attack, but couldn't pull it off as the Red Bull stayed glued to the track and kept the power on. WHAT reduction in downforce?
*MOOOOOO-OOOVE OF THE RACE: Adrian Sutil's attempt to avoid the coming first turn schmozzle that put him in the perfect place to be speared by the spinning Toyota of Jarno Trulli would at any other time earn him the Moooooo-ooove (he never even bothered to try to make the first couple of turns, instead just diving into the run-off area. Trulli, having been punted by Nico Rosberg's Williams, spun and lanced across the track, ending up exactly where Sutil was re-entering the circuit) However, since it happened on the first lap, it is ineligible by rule for the award. Instead, we're giving the coveted award to Scuderia Ferrari for screwing up their sums and not putting enough fuel to finish the race into Felipe Massa's car and costing them a fourth-place finish. First they screw up in Quals with Kimi Raikkonen, now this? And Ferrari is supposed to be the premiere team in F1???
This really does seem to be Button's year. It's a long season and anything can happen, but that's 4 wins out of 5 races so far, which is seriously awesome.
Did you see Ferrarri's ultimatum? If FIA doesn't change the rules for 2010, Ferrarri will quit!
The Board of Directors also examined developments related to recent decisions taken by the Federation Internationale de l’Automobile during an extraordinary meeting of the World Motor Sport Council on 29 April 2009. Although this meeting was originally called only to examine a disciplinary matter, the decisions taken mean that, for the first time ever in Formula One, the 2010 season will see the introduction of two different sets of regulations based on arbitrary technical rules and economic parameters.
The Board considers that if this is the regulatory framework for Formula One in the future, then the reasons underlying Ferrari’s uninterrupted participation in the World Championship over the last 60 years - the only constructor to have taken part ever since its inception in 1950 - would come to a close.
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Yes, I did... it's interesting. We'll see who's the power behind F1 now.
Though it's not the first time Ferrari has threatened such a thing. Back in the 80s, they threatened to withdraw for one reason or another, saying that they'd enter the (now) IndyCar series. They even built a chassis for the series.
Came to nothing, of course, but history shows that Ferrari always gets it's way in matters like this.
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 13, 2009 06:46 AM (hlGBx)