F1Pr0n: MegaPr0n 2011
Over the past two days, seven F1 teams brought out their cars for the 2011 season. Unfortunately, only one, Sauber, actually bothered to take glamour shots for our perusal. They, of course, got a F1 Pr0n entry all to themselves. Lotus released a couple of grainy and poorly exposed pictures and some computer renderings of their new car, so they don't get nuthin' until it hits the track on Wednesday.
But Renault, Williams, Mercedes, Red Bull and Toro Rosso? They get to share a post... the first ever F1 MegaPr0n!
We'll start with the team that got the least amount of worthwhile photos, Toro Rosso.
As near as can be told, the STR6 is merely an evolution of last year's chassis, which was, in effect, a Red Bull RB4 taken in a different direction than the parent team's chassis, the RB6. That's hardly a bad thing, considering that the RB5 fought tooth and nail with Brawn for the constructor's championship. Still, I was hoping for something a smidge more exciting from the Red Bull "B" team. It's a lower nose than that being copied by... well, just about everybody. It's possible that Toro Rosso is running an interim design, one that uses pieces from last year's car, until the whole package is complete and tested. Of course, they might be trying to step out of the shadow of the "A" team, too. Might be interesting, that. On the whole though, it looks pretty vanilla, or at least as vanilla as any F1 car can look. I'll pay attention to the car over the next few weeks and if there's any major change I'll let you know.
Next up, 2010's Disappointment of the Year, Mercedes!
First off, I love the new paint job. Last year's all-silver livery was historical, a hearkening back to the "Silver Arrows" of Mercedes' past, but it was a little dull. The addition of the Petronas green livens it up a bit. As far as the chassis, named the MGP-W02, goes, that nose reminds me somewhat of a platypus' bill. It's certainly higher than the W01's, though. Sidepod inlets are huge, but a triangular shape as opposed to the rectangular of last year's. Is that because the designers are trying to move away from the BrawnGP design? Or just an inevitable design evolution? Kinda hard to tell from this photo, truth be told. I suppose we should get used to rollouts like this, as opposed to the high-end, no-expense-spared affairs of the past. Darn shame, though.
Our next entry comes from the World Champions themselves, Red Bull!
If there was one chassis I wasn't looking forward to seeing, it was the new RB7. I mean, let's face it: the RB6 was the best car all season; on those few occasions it didn't win, well, it wasn't usually the fault of the chassis. With uber-aerodynamicist Adrian Newey on the payroll, it's not like there were going to be many external changes.
And indeed, there aren't. Oh sure, there's a new thing on the centerline of the rear wing, which I assume is part of the actuator for the new movable bits, but otherwise? Pretty much the same. Sidepod intakes look to be a smidge smaller, but it's really difficult to tell: black on dark blue does not visibility make. I'm sure there's something different, perhaps many somethings, but my guess is that they're all internal.
Speaking of black on dark blue, allow me to present the Williams FW33.
I really do hope they keep the car number in a white circle like that on the real livery; this is just the testing color scheme. I'm going to do something I've avoided this year... I'm going to post a picture of last years' car for comparison purposes.
Sharper downward turn on the nose, angled strut connecting the front wing to it as well. The thing that lept out at me instantly, though, was the sidepod. It's definitely more graceful in the FW33, more angled across the top where the FW32 was rounded. I'm sure some of that is due to the dark color preventing details from coming out, but not all. The rear wing is different as well, with a notch taken out as opposed to the whole upper-rear corner (if you get what I'm talking about). It's a bunch of subtle differences that, to me, add up to a chassis that's more pleasing to the eye... or maybe it's the livery, I dunno.
Speaking of liveries, it's time to bring out the best-damn-lookin' paintjob of the year.
Renault this season will be more correctly known as Lotus-Renault, for reasons that are much too confusing to get into here, and this livery is a tribute to the classic Lotus "John Player Special" livery used from 1972 to 1986... and my all-time favorite to boot. It's certainly better than the bumblebee colors used last year. And while the body seems pretty normal, there's something very clever going on with the R31... very clever indeed.
As you're all aware, the trick diffusers of the past two years have been outlawed. No more double diffusers, no more blown diffusers where the exhaust gases flowed directly onto the diffuser, none of that is allowed now. Of course, that removes a small (or not that small, perhaps) but measurable amount of downforce from the equation. Now, look carefully at the rear end of the car, right around where the word "elf" is located. That's roughly where the exhaust pipes should be, yet there are none visible. Good reason for that: they aren't there. In fact, there aren't ANY exhaust ports anywhere on the rear of the car. Instead, Renault has trunked the exhaust to the bottom of the front of the sidepods... where they blow onto and underneath the floor of the chassis. This introduces faster (and hotter!) airflow under the car, which in turn increases the downforce as it passes beneath the flat bottom, just like an airplane wing induces lift... except opposite, of course. It's a brilliant idea, and one that Renault deserves to have pay off big. Of course, there are potential problems here. Extra cooling and insulation will be needed around the pipes, since F1 engines kick out exhaust gases at approximately 800°C. Instead of going right out the back, now the piping is running around such things as the fuel tank, the radiators and the electronics... none of which play well with high heat. Look for the chassis to perhaps have overheating problems in Bahrain, Malaysia and Abu Dhabi. But it might just be worth it, considering how clever the idea is.
So that's it for the F1 MegaPr0n! The real Lotus should be taking the track on Wednesday, and with any luck we'll get some good pics of that challenger. Check back tomorrow!
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I saw a picture of the Renault this afternoon and just knew you were going to approve. There are some pictures out there of the exhaust outlet, but the photographer put his watermark right over them, so that they're completely useless. It will be interesting to see what that does for them, I have no idea what the exhaust flow is, I did some napkin math for exhaust volume and came up with outrageous numbers, so I'm probably mis-calculating somewhere, but if not that's a lot of airflow they've redirected to a good location.
Posted by: David at February 02, 2011 12:12 AM (xcVNq)
All of the cars have some sort of spike sticking up in the top front between the front wheels. Is that a radio antenna? Seems like a source of drag, so I assume it's mandated by the rules.
The thing that worries me about the Renault exhaust is whether it's going to suffocate the driver when the car is sitting still. I guess a pitstop is too short for that to be an issue, but how about before the race start?
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 02, 2011 12:34 AM (+rSRq)
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Steven, I'm not sure if those are antennas for the cockpit radio or for data telemetry, or both. But yes, those spikes are antennas. As far as suffocating the driver goes, I'd think that the amount of fresh air in the immediate vicinity of the cockpit would be enough to counteract the downward-pointing exhausts, even standing still. Haven't read any reports of Robert Kubica dropping dead. I didn't even consider the implication of having the exhaust coming out next to the driver, though.
David, I've seen the pictures you're talking about, and let's face it... even if the watermark wasn't there, they don't really show much of anything anyway. "Oh look, it's a hole in an unidentified piece of bodywork!" As far as total exhaust flow, when it comes to F1 engines, even ridiculous numbers might very well be true. I mean, a 200lb engine spinning at 18000 rpm and turning out ~750hp? Anything is possible.
Posted by: Wonderduck at February 02, 2011 01:45 AM (W8Men)
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That navy blue 11 car is handsome. It's probably too simple to leave that way, but I like it. :-)
Posted by: Mallory at February 02, 2011 11:31 AM (WJ2qy)
F1 Pr0n: Sauber C30
Of the three rollouts today, only Sauber released studio glamour shots of their steed, so let's give them the attention they richly deserve!
Yes I know, that's not a studio shot. Well, they didn't do a studio shot of the nose. We take what we can get 'round these parts. Again, let's compare to last year's car. Unlike the Ferrari, the sidepod intakes sure look larger than on the C29... in fact, the sidepods as a whole seem bulkier, at least from the front. It's a high nose, but that's more of a carryover from the 2010 chassis than a copy of the Red Bull. However...
...it has more of a droop than the C29. Maybe it's an optical illusion, but the nose seems more pointy than last year's. The shark's fin stretching to the rear wing is gone as well. After looking at the side view, I'm pretty sure the sidepods are bulkier. That can mean one of two things: one, the KERS unit takes up more space than I expected, or two, they expect to have cooling problems, leading to bigger radiator units (ergo, the larger inlets). Or something else altogether... it's so hard to tell with a F1 car. It might be simple aerodynamics, too.
I dunno... I think I prefer the looks of the C30 over Ferrari's F150. I'm just not sure if that's because it's really a better looking car, or if it's because I despise Ferrari so much. The addition of sponsor logos is welcome; it might let Sauber actually advance the design during the season. I was going to comment on the proliferation of Mexican-based business logos (Cuervo tequila, Telmex, Telcel, Claro), until I remembered that Sergio Perez is driving for Sauber this season. The addition of some color to the livery helps the looks, too.
Of course, looks don't win races... if they did, Lotus would have won every race last year.
Posted by: Mallory at February 01, 2011 04:12 PM (WJ2qy)
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KERS has never been banned, oddly enough. Last year, the teams got together and decided en masse not to run it (presumably so as not to make life even more expensive on the three new players), but it's always been permitted. This year, many (all?) of the "old" teams will be using it. Lotus has come out and said that they won't be, but Virgin and HRT are mum on the subject.
Posted by: Wonderduck at February 01, 2011 04:13 PM (W8Men)
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The devil is in the details but all of the new cars this year do have a very similar look so far. I see Sauber is using Ferrari's KERs, transmission & engines.
Posted by: Tony von Krag at February 01, 2011 09:47 PM (VGXAE)
F1 Pr0n: Ferrari F150
The offseason is over. F1 has come back for 2011 with the traditional first rollout of the season, Scuderia Ferrari! This morning they debuted their new chassis, the F150 (nope, no truck jokes here... yet). So what does it look like?
Like this:
Pictures of last year's car can be found here, and may be useful for comparison purposes. Two things immediately leap out at me. First off, the nose is higher. It's more like Red Bull's 2010 challenger, the RB6, then the Ferrari 2010 car, F10. Well heck, it worked pretty well for Red Bull last year, and in Formula 1 if it works, it gets copied. The second thing visible is that the air intakes on the sidepods are more horizontal than last year. The intake above the driver's head is rounder as well.
Let's take a look at the rest of the car, shall we?
F1 Pr0n First Look: Korean International Circuit
Usually, F1 Pr0n deals strictly with the rollout of the cars for the new F1 season. However today we've got something special on tap: a whole new circuit. The Korean International Circuit at Yeongam is due to play host to the first GP of Korea on October 24th, but there's been talk of the place not being finished in time. Well, I'm here to tell you that it sure as heck looks like the talk is true. But first, here's the track map:
Okay, let's play "Guess The Track Designer," shall we? Nah, what's the point, it's pretty obvious that Hermann Tilke's scat is all over the layout. There is one series of turns that I'm fascinated with on here, Turns 4, 5 and 6. I'm fascinated because I can't imagine anybody thinking that a hairpin followed by a tight 90-degree turn followed by another 90-degree turn in the opposite direction could possibly make for good racing.
I can see Tilke's design process at work here: "First let's draw some straight lines. Then I'll let the cat push a piece of charcoal around the paper. Okay, that's the layout!" Remember once upon a time I mentioned how all the good circuits in F1 had a flow to them, how one part of the track should lead to another in a natural, organic way? Well, the KIC doesn't do that anywhere. It honestly feels like Tilke set out to avoid that at all costs.
To make matters worse, there's much doubt in my mind as to whether or not the whole place will be finished in the five weeks remaining until race weekend. "But Wonderduck," I hear you asking, "how do you know that???" Well, allow me to show you an interesting picture:
This is the view of the main straight from right around where the start/finish line is marked on the trackmap. That's the main grandstands on the left, the paddock area is to the right. Does that look even remotely like someplace you'd want to go to to watch a race? Does that grandstand look like it's completed? Other structures around the track are much the same, looking like concrete shells with nothing inside, just the exterior walls. The actual race track asphalt is laid, but the curbs, the runoff areas, everything that allows cars to race safely? Missing or incomplete. But don't take my word for it, just take a look at this video.
The race organizers and Red Bull had a demonstration run a couple of weeks ago using the 2008 Red Bull chassis and the FIA's super-hard demo tires. Surprisingly, Cowboy Karun Chandhok was the driver (the usual RB drivers weren't allowed to run, as it'd be an unfair advantage, I guess). The FIA and Hispania Racing, Chandhok's normal team, let him do it, which is a pretty clear indicator that we won't be seeing him again this year. I can only imagine what he must have felt, actually getting into a real F1 car and being allowed to turn some laps.
Anyway, watching that video just confirmed all my opinions from the track map: it looks like disaster-in-the-making, as far as racing goes. Now driving the circuit looks like it'd be a blast, but that's not the same as racing around it.
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It sounds like, in the twisties, he gets about 1 good second of throttle stabbing in before he has to let up before the corner. Now he's obviously not running qualifying laps, but that doesn't look like it will be very fun.
Posted by: Will at September 18, 2010 11:32 PM (5CqDH)
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Why do they have the walls so close to the track? I can understand doing that for the pit straight, but here they have walls right next to the track for what looks like half the circuit; the track looks more like a street circuit than a dedicated race track. I hope the walls have some give to them, like the safety walls in NASCAR, and aren't just concrete. Also note there's no place for a car to pull over in the walled-in areas if it has a mechanical failure; they'll need more cranes than Monaco to get busted cars off the track quickly.
What happens if the track isn't ready for the race? Has the FIA ever canceled an F1 race due to an unsafe circuit? This could be a bigger mess than Donington Park, since the race is coming up so soon and AFAIK there's no other suitable track available in Korea, even if they could change venues in short notice. At least when the Donington Park organizers dropped the ball, they could move the British GP back to Silverstone.
Posted by: Peter the Not-so-Great at September 19, 2010 08:59 PM (c62wM)
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Peter TnsG, a lot of the walls are there specifically to keep out-of-control cars from leaving the course, then returning in a dangerous way. Imagine someone blowing Turn 5, skittering across the grass dirt, then sliding back on track near the exit of Turn 6.
Most of the walls seem to be Armco barriers or something similar. They most assuredly have give, though not enough to allow a car to get through them. The concrete walls are mostly on straights where there is going to be seating or facilities (for example, the second pitlane on the run from Turn 3 to Turn 4; that's becoming more and more common, to accommodate 'support series' races, like GP2, without encroaching on the F1 pits). If you look carefully, each of the concrete sections have openings every so often that'll be faired over. That will allow broken cars to be pushed off the track. While I didn't notice similar gaps in the Armco, I'm sure there'll be something.
None of the walls in F1 are S.A.F.E.R. barriers, though. Europe and F1 tend to use "compression barriers", aka "tire walls", to serve the same purpose.
SAFER barriers are a uniquely American design, used here primarily because of the higher speeds associated with oval racing. Watkins Glen is the only road course in the world with SAFER barriers, and that only because NASCAR runs there, now a requirement for the marque. F1-style road courses just don't see the sort of speeds that a SAFER barrier would substantially help with. They wouldn't hurt to have, and it won't surprise me if the new track in Austin has them, but tire walls do the same thing at lower speeds, and cost a helluva lot less.
As far as Korea goes, the track itself is done. All they'll need to do is put down the curbs and finish the pitlane and they can race there. Of course, there's practically no seating, and the parking lots and access roads and extra buildings aren't anywhere near being done, and I'd bet whatever permanent cabling is needed for a F1 broadcast isn't in place either. In effect, they can run the race, but nobody can see it.
If that's the case come race weekend, I don't know what they'll do. If it gets canceled, there's nothing to be done, no other place to run it. Oh, they could go to the Mt Fuji circuit instead, I suppose, assuming it's not booked already, but that throws in massive headaches of its own, not the least of which is "what do you do with the tickets sold?"
Posted by: Wonderduck at September 19, 2010 10:46 PM (blg68)
F1 Pr0n: Hispania Racing Team HRT
Okay, here's the moment you've all been waiting for: more pictures of the HRT HRT (yes, that's really it's name)!
Okay, the first thing I can say is that this car is going to be able to outbrake anything on the planet. Look at the size of those brake ducts! Merciful Monza, those things are huge! They'd be able to ingest a watermelon!
Then there's that front wing. Yesterday I called it "simple", and now I'm going to go a little bit farther and call it "really simple." I can make a more complex curve with a sheet of 3/4" plywood... and a plain sheet of plywood would probably create more downforce.
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Yah. Teams change them depending on the brake requirements for each track. Some places, like Monza, don't use the brakes much and don't need to have as much cooling, so the ducts are very small. At a track like Canada, however, the brakes are abused and get large ducts.
But these are the clown shoes of the brake duct world. Perhaps if they were racing on the surface of Mercury, they would be appropriate.
Posted by: Wonderduck at March 05, 2010 11:55 PM (mfPs/)
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A lot of this is guided by the capabilities of Dallara to manufacture a chassis... on time. It's better to be in Bahrain than not to be in Bahrain.
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at March 06, 2010 12:53 AM (/ppBw)
Posted by: Wonderduck at March 06, 2010 03:33 AM (mfPs/)
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IIRC, BAR's first car also had metal suspension components, and look how well they did in their first season. Also IIRC, everybody else on the grid had gone to carbon-fiber suspension parts when BAR was running with metal--and that was back in 1999. Using metal suspension parts today puts HRT into the F1 equivalent of the Stone Age.
Posted by: Peter the Not-so-Great at March 06, 2010 09:27 AM (c62wM)
F1 Pr0n Sneak Peek: Hispania Racing Team HRT
The last team to join the F1 ranks has finally dragged its car into the spotlight. Hispania Racing Team, once known as Campos Meta, gave a more-or-less rollout for their vehicle this afternoon. And here it is:
Um. Well. I have to say that I'm not exactly enamored of the color scheme but as someone once said, "paint doesn't win races." This is currently the only picture of the chassis floating around out there, so let us try and figure out what we can from it.
The first thing I notice is the front wing, which could charitably be called "simple." No complex curves, no movable elements surely, just a basic downforce-producing design. The nose, and indeed much of the rest of the car, reminds me very much of Virgin's VR-1. Considering the Dallara influence on that chassis (Nick Wirth, Virgin's technical designer, worked with the manufacturer on their IRL cars), and that Dallara built this one, it's not surprising.
Not much else really stands out in this picture, though. Hopefully we'll see more soon, because we sure won't be seeing much of it during the races. With the end of the final test session in Barcelona last week, F1's testing ban is now in place... so the first time this car will turn a wheel will be in Bahrain's 1st Friday Practice session!
F1 Pr0n: Lotus T127
British Racing Green is back in Formula 1 with the reveal of the new 2010 Lotus T127 on Friday!
Reportedly there are a lot of ex-Toyota people working for the Malaysian-based team, which could explain why the nose reminds me of Toyota's TF109. Not the wing, but the vertical mounting and the nose cone itself. One thing we haven't seen yet with this season's debuts are these sidepods. The tops are dead flat on the Lotus, as opposed to swooping or curved; interesting look, this.
That first picture seems like looking at a grin with a couple of teeth missing. It seems rather empty and open compared to a lot of the other cars you've posted about.
Is it because the front wing is smaller?
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 13, 2010 01:20 PM (+rSRq)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 13, 2010 01:21 PM (+rSRq)
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It's the angle. Most of the glamour shots from the front are taken from right about the height of the driver's eyes when he's in the cockpit, but there just weren't any for the Lotus from that p.o.v. Believe me, I spent about an hour scouring my sources looking for one, but no soap.
There's something weird about this car and optical illusions anyway. Right up until I was about to hit "post", I thought that the dorsal fin was not the usual razor-thickness, but that it was actually wide enough to contain an exhaust port. Look at the fourth picture and maybe you'll see why I thought that!
I had a lot of speculation as to what benefit that'd bring, and I came to the conclusion that it'd help downforce (much like a blown flap on an airplane creates lift) since it looks like it'd be exhausting right over the rear wing, but they'd then have to deal with the heat burning or melting the wing elements. Then I realized what I REALLY was looking at, felt silly, and deleted the whole paragraph.
Posted by: Wonderduck at February 13, 2010 03:52 PM (G8/ak)
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I really like the color scheme, even though paint isn't known to help win races.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 13, 2010 03:53 PM (+rSRq)
F1 Pr0n: Force India VJM-03
Force India was my choice for "most improved" team last year, so I've
been eagerly awaiting their 2010 charger. Would they make radical
changes? Gently evolve? Leave the car be? The answer turns out to be "evolve." Nothing shocking here; the only real changes are those prescribed by the rule book.
F1 Pr0n: Virgin Racing VR-1
The virgin Virgin Racing team debuted their first car online today, and it's different...
Touted as the first F1 car designed entirely in computer with zero wind tunnel testing, the VR-01 appears to have some roots in the IRL. Which makes perfect sense, considering that Virgin's technical designer, Nick Wirth, did a lot of work with Dallara on their IRL chassis. Specifically, that nose! Mosquitos have wider probosces. Compare the VR-01's needle-point nose to the humongous beak on the Renault, for example.
F1 Pr0n: Toro Rosso STR5
In many ways the Toro Rosso STR5 has been the car I've been most looking forward to. This is the first time the team has had to field an original design, as opposed to being a "client chassis" of the parent Red Bull team. This puts them in an interesting position of being an experienced F1 team, but never having built their own car. The question in my mind was how inventive they would be.
The answer turned out to be "not very." It's essentially an updated STR4, which was the safe way to go for a relatively small team with an all-new design staff.
F1 Pr0n: Mercedes MGP-W01
Mercedes brought out their 2010 steed today, and it's pretty clear why they didn't want to roll their car out first. It's got some interesting things in it, things that we haven't seen before!
No glamour pics, I'm afraid. Reportedly, this chassis has been worked on (as the Brawn BGP-02) since the 2009 "summer break", so they've already filed off the rough edges. It's a high nose (though not as high as some), with a serious nod to last year's Red Bull RB5 in that it copies the "V-nose" concept. You'll note the raised edges, which in the MGP-W01 run all the way back to the cockpit. The sidepod openings are huge in comparison to those in the McLaren or Ferrari. The really innovative bit, however, is the air intake above the driver's head. The structure serves two purposes on a F1 car: it gets air to the engine (ergo the name) and it acts as a roll bar to protect the driver in case the car ends up upside down. In the past, the entire thing has been protective, built up out of carbon fiber to meet the required strength. In the Mercedes, however, there is a thick vertical support on the centerline of the airbox that serves the same purpose. The inlet is, in effect, split into two and is considerably larger as a result.
F1 Pr0n: Renault R30
Renault also rolled out their new car, the R30, today... and there are a few surprises.
It's the first of the 2010 racers to have a low-slung nose. The idealist would suggest that they've found that it's better than the high nose. The cynic, however, will say that all the prevaricating over coming back that Renault did last year prevented them from doing enough design work to discover the possible benefits of the high nose. The sidepod air intakes are larger and lower than the other new releases as well. The front wing is pretty generic, but that'd be easy to change.
One of the reasons the P-51 Mustang was so fast was that the engine cooling air was ducted out the bottom rear and yielded additional thrust, something called the Meredith Effect.
Could something like that be done with an F1 car? Would it be legal? (Are they already doing it?)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at January 31, 2010 07:14 PM (+rSRq)
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Well, looking online, it appears that the Meredith Effect (which I had never heard of before just now) is useful only at much higher power levels than that generated by a F1 car.
Which isn't to say that it's non-existent at lower speeds, just perhaps not worth the trouble. The various ducts and piping and what-have-you the engineers would need to install to get the small bonus it'd generate... would probably counter the bonus and add extra complexity to the car.
Would it be legal? I think the answer clearly would be 'yes.' There's already some (very) small oomph generated by the exhaust system. The Meredith Effect would just add to that. Of course, if a team DID manage to get a measurable and worthwhile bonus from it, the FIA would probably outlaw it, much the same way they did the fan car, and probably for the same reason.
Posted by: Wonderduck at January 31, 2010 11:07 PM (Cpxcy)
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That's too bad. I had this image of the jet engine on the back of the Batmobile...
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at January 31, 2010 11:41 PM (+rSRq)
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I can't even think of all the ways that'd mess with the aero of the car behind... but it made me snicker just the same.
Posted by: Wonderduck at January 31, 2010 11:59 PM (Cpxcy)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 01, 2010 12:51 AM (+rSRq)
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"in fact more properly is called the "Junkers effect" as Junkers
patented the diffusor-radiator-jet combation as "Düsenkühler" ('jet
cooler') in DRP 299799 on 17 January, 1915. (Von Gersdorff et al.,
"Deutsche Flugmotoren und Strahltriebwerke, p. 196.)
The principle obviously was well-known in the English-speaking part of
the aviation industry as well. "Fundamentals of Fighter Design" by Ray
Whitford notes (p. 61): "In 1926 it was realized that airflow through
the radiators on liquid-cooled engines could, if properly ducted,
eliminate the cooling drag and even produce a little thrust at speeds
above 260 kts (483 km/h)." "
Posted by: Jani at February 01, 2010 07:54 AM (6qC2o)
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But you want tailgating, and positive effects from traveling in another car's slipstream, because that promotes running closely to other cars and passing, and makes the race more exciting. If it's just a battle to see who wins the pole and gets to fire up their afterburner first, well, why even bother to watch the race? Or run it, for that matter?
Posted by: Avatar_exADV at February 01, 2010 02:44 PM (pWQz4)
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Naah, it just makes pitstop times more important.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 01, 2010 04:44 PM (+rSRq)
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(There are courses in F1 where there's essentially no passing, right? Because the shape of the course is such that passing is impossible? Monaco?)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 01, 2010 04:45 PM (+rSRq)
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You can pass at Monaco, it's just incredibly difficult and generally counter-productive as you usually end up breaking your car.
Posted by: Wonderduck at February 02, 2010 09:25 AM (Cpxcy)
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I wonder what's up with all the smaller teams. Only majors turned up for the first testing sessions.
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at February 02, 2010 06:05 PM (/ppBw)
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Well, you'll note that Red Bull themselves aren't at this session. They and Force India will be debuting on Feb 10th. Lotus will be bringing out their car on the 12th. USF1 will be running at the Barber Motorsport Park in Alabama sometime "early in February."
I can't find anything about Virgin F1 and Campos Meta.
Posted by: Wonderduck at February 02, 2010 07:18 PM (w5qDx)
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Correction: Virgin is apparently going to be rolling out on Wednesday, Feb 3, with a "private test" at Silverstone on Thursday and Friday.
Posted by: Wonderduck at February 02, 2010 07:19 PM (w5qDx)
F1 Pr0n Sneak Peek: Williams FW32
Not a full F1 Pr0n entry as the car hasn't yet officially debuted, but the Williams took their new car, the FW32, out for a pre-test shakedown run at Silverstone a couple of days ago. Y'know, "kick the tires, make sure everything stays in one piece, turn a few burn a few," that sort of thing. It was supposed to be a secret thing, not for public consumption.
Of course, the car could still change between now and the first test session on Monday, but there's that high nose again! The front wing seems pretty high off the ground, but look at the tires: those are full wet treaded; a weather-related high downforce setup? Maybe Williams doesn't have the final nose on there?
From the front, McLaren's 2010 challenger doesn't seem too different from the 2009 car. The nose is higher, but the betting line is that that'll be the norm this season (with the wider front tires last year, the lower nose allowed more ballast to be placed up front. This season's narrower tires will require a better balance all-round, so the high nose won't hinder anything).
It's when you look at the side view, though, that you realize that we're looking at rolling artwork as much as high-speed racer...
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I really really like that fin. Has anyone ever done that before?
Posted by: pxcasey at January 29, 2010 10:09 PM (XGEj1)
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The Red Bull RB5 had a long fin by the end of the season, but not quite like this one. So, yes, I guess it has been done, but there's something about the McLaren fin that's different. I can't quite put my finger on why.
Ah, I got it. This one looks like it connects to the rear wing; the RB5's didn't.
Posted by: Wonderduck at January 29, 2010 11:01 PM (Cpxcy)
I believe the fin is designed to control yaw in and smooth out airflow the concept has been around for a few seasons now but Mclaren Merc have never run with it. could be using it to cure last years rear downforce problems.
Posted by: le-reve at January 30, 2010 11:15 PM (Y8guG)
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When Red Bull introduced the fin on the RB4 back in 2008, the thought was that it improved stability over the rear under braking. The Legendary Announce Team predicted that it'd be copied quickly, even if nobody had the slightest idea why it worked or what it did, because that's the way F1 design works.
Everybody steals from everybody else.
Posted by: Wonderduck at January 31, 2010 12:17 AM (Cpxcy)
F1 Pr0n: Ferrari F10!
It's finally time! The 2010 F1 rollout season is here, and as is traditional, Scuderia Ferrari has the position of honor. They debuted their new chassis, the F10, this morning. And here it is:
At casual glance, it looks pretty much like last year's car, but let's take a comparative glance at the 2009 F60, shall we?
The first thing that leaps out you is the sidepods. On the F60, they go straight across the top, but the F10 is curved, bulging at the outsides. The nose wing is subtly different as well. The middle element on the new car, where the Santander logo picture is located, just stops when it reaches the inner limit. On the F60, they slope down to the limit point. The air intake has changed, with a more squashed appearance in comparison to the 2009 car. Other changes are visible on the rear wing and where the sidepods meet the monocoque; look at the Ferrari logo and you'll see what I mean.
So the only reason to go into the pits this year is for new tires?
I don't know if I like that. Pitstop strategy for fuel (2 or 3 times?) was part of the game, and a way that the team managers to be involved.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at January 28, 2010 11:46 PM (+rSRq)
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Look up the presentation by Ferrari design chief Nikolas Tombazis. He said most dramatic changes are in the rear suspension and structure that was widened to accomodate the double diffuser. The rest of the car was not changed as much. So pictures of the back would be most telling.
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at January 29, 2010 12:39 AM (/ppBw)
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Steven, the teams still have to use two tire compounds/race, so there'll still be stops... they'll just be four seconds long instead of seven. Historically, there have been quite a few more seasons that didn't allow refueling than those that did. I actually don't mind the loss of fuel stops that much. I DO mind the fact that the FIA screwed with the rules again, but I can live with it.
Pete, I'll see what I can find.
Posted by: Wonderduck at January 29, 2010 07:43 AM (Cpxcy)
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The good side of them screwing with the rules is that it's no longer McLaren/Ferrarri and a bunch of losers. The game is more competitive now.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at January 29, 2010 01:19 PM (+rSRq)
Not Quite F1 Pr0n... Yet
Today, Mercedes-Sauber F1 debuted... their paintjob.
The idea behind the livery is that it's a throwback to the original "silver arrows" of Mercedes. Back in the day-- if the day you're talking about is 1934 or thereabouts-- the Mercedes team was going to join the Eifelrennen, but their car was too heavy for the weight restrictions. So the night before, the team sanded all the paint off, leaving just the silver chassis behind.
And a legend was born. Today's paintjob is meant to pay tribute to that one (which really wasn't a paintjob). The car is (obviously) silver, but has part of it "sanded off", revealing the black carbon fiber underneath (not really, it's just paint, but run with it, okay?). The greenish-blue on the leading edges of the nose and other places is the color of Petronas, the team's major sponsor.
The chassis this paintjob (actually, vinyl decal, but let's go with paintjob) is on isn't the 2010 MGP W01, but last year's Brawn car. We should be seeing the new car later this week, when the first FIA practice session begins. So stay tuned!
Posted by: Wonderduck at January 25, 2010 09:08 PM (Cpxcy)
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The idea is to move the front wing out of the turbulence created by the rear wing of the car in front. But of course it does not work because the rest of car body creates vortexes too.
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at January 25, 2010 11:37 PM (/ppBw)
Wow. Just... wow!
Now this is impressive as all heck:
Twenty-frickin'-two Ferrari F1 cars! Taken in 2003 at the 10th Annual Modena Motorsport Ferrari Track Day at the Nurburgring, the front row features the 1949 Ferrari 166, the F2001, and the 500/625.
Good lord, what that lineup must have SOUNDED like rolling onto the grid... and yes, I'm sure they were mostly pushed up there, I don't care, don't spoil the dream, okay?
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There is a 2003 body and chassis in the Ferrari store downtown - a beautiful thing to look at, even for a fellow Ferrari hater. It's so small and insubstantial looking, up close.
Posted by: Vaucanson's Duck at June 10, 2009 03:53 PM (XVJDy)
Posted by: Mallory at June 11, 2009 07:27 AM (WJ2qy)
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Been to Maranello, as part of my Motorsport heaven birthday trip - we started in Tavullia, the home to the #1 (or maybe #46) bike rider - then we spend half a day in the Ferrari museum. Funny thing, they were actually testing out a car that day... quite funny, the whole motorway came to a complete halt, everybody was out of their cars, watching the F1 car practicing
Posted by: Fishbone at June 11, 2009 12:38 PM (TMpIj)
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Fish, don't take this the wrong way, because I mean it with all the love in my cold, flinty heart, but I hate you.
Posted by: Wonderduck at June 11, 2009 06:14 PM (hlGBx)